tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post1107174985079065265..comments2024-03-21T02:27:19.010-05:00Comments on Discerning the Times: The God of the Mundane: Part 6, The Mundane ChurchMatt Redmondhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11932597864330476492noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post-21364416387227349042013-04-30T03:29:18.727-05:002013-04-30T03:29:18.727-05:00Loved the put up, can make me feel bad about how n...Loved the put up, can make me feel bad about how normal ours is. 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I really appreciate that.Matt Redmondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932597864330476492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post-32127332533271381182010-06-05T21:32:54.709-05:002010-06-05T21:32:54.709-05:00I just like your thoughts and your blog so much!I just like your thoughts and your blog so much!stephyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10047873385595074389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post-20297664219115415672010-05-24T12:33:22.162-05:002010-05-24T12:33:22.162-05:00Concerning relevance, 1 Corinthians 14:23-26, thou...Concerning relevance, 1 Corinthians 14:23-26, though in the context of orderly worship, is rather about the mundane functioning of a church body. Our primary goal among other Christians is to encourage and uplift each other by the power of the Holy Spirit:<br /><br />"If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds? But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all,the secrets of his heart are disclosed, and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you.<br /><br /><br />What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up."<br /><br />This should be the baseline goal of all gatherings. If what we construct as grandiose worship is there to edify ourselves, then it misses the mark. If it edifies the church to follow Christ, then it hits the mark, regardless of whether our culture finds it be mundane, or cutting edge.Sonic Fortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03068028542957409699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post-20514509768746894862010-05-24T11:14:12.878-05:002010-05-24T11:14:12.878-05:00"When the music fades all is stripped away, a..."When the music fades all is stripped away, and I simply come" ~that other guy :)<br /><br />I think it is less about what you see and more about truth. That mundane church we share in common was built on truth. That is what we long for. When the pomp and circumstance overshadows the substance...well, our hearts long for the substance, the real. I was so excited to attend a church with "my kind of worship music" when we arrived in our new town. I was quite surprised as I sat there in the concert-like surroundings that the thing I craved most was that mundane church of which you speak. However, the church I currently attend also has loud music and a band, but the difference is it's not about them, but all about Him. Many people are talented and able to perform but few are gifted with being a lead worshiper--to coin a phrase by Louie Giglio. I know this is not exactly what you are talking about...but my ramblings upon reading your post. I think the important thing as a pastor team is to resist the temptation for the next big thing and seek hard after the heart of God. He is the truth we seek, and pursuit of Him on the part of all pastors comes across to those of us in the pews regardless of style.Dawn Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03903219476448117613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post-37650607145730169462010-05-24T11:11:56.778-05:002010-05-24T11:11:56.778-05:00Johnny,
Thanks! I have been enjoying related blog...Johnny,<br /><br />Thanks! I have been enjoying related blog posts as well. They have been very helpful.<br /><br />I have heard of Nevin's book but have never read it. I'm going to add it to my least. Between you and your wife, my list is growing fast.Matt Redmondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11932597864330476492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post-59216891767778256672010-05-24T11:09:11.488-05:002010-05-24T11:09:11.488-05:00Rereading. I love this post, Matt. As always, I bl...Rereading. I love this post, Matt. As always, I blame Finney.<br /><br />Have you read <i>The Anxious Bench</i> by John Nevin? He was arguing for the mundane cathechism against the revivalism of the so-called Second Great Awakening. He was already dealing with these same issues in seed form.Johnny!https://www.blogger.com/profile/10314962226900234185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post-76928300337148540522010-05-24T09:51:49.835-05:002010-05-24T09:51:49.835-05:00Nice post, Matt. I think you're on the right t...Nice post, Matt. I think you're on the right track.<br /><br />It sounds like what you're looking for is generally what is found in the historic liturgies of the church. (I don't know if that's a direction you've explored at all; if not, may I recommend that you look at Hughes Oliphant Old's <i>Worship: Reformed according to Scripture</i> and/or Jeffrey Meyers's <i>The Lord's Service</i>?) These liturgies offer essentially what you say: the same pattern of worship week by week, with little or no variation of the pattern based on calendar, etc.<br /><br />In my view, these are useful and ministering over the long-term precisely <b>because</b> they are, in your words, mundane (by that I take it you mean they are plain and "routine"-- not earthy and worldly, right?) Anyone who has beheld (as I have) someone who is asked to pray in public stammering and eventually offering a thanksgiving for the food (when there is no food) will realize the power of liturgy. It becomes a pattern of instinct. (I wrote <a href="http://pastorblog.hickorywithepc.org/index.php?id=6362186938605259582" rel="nofollow">a longer post on the value of liturgy on my blog</a>.)<br /><br />The key thing to realize, though, is that in the consistency of the pattern there is great, great room for variety and even innovation. That 18th Century Bach piece was once a new pop tune. I was just listening to a <i>Kyrie Eleison</i> by John Rutter, written in the last 15 years or so; it is so different from a Bach, yet it would fit perfectly in a liturgy that included the <i>Kyrie</i>.<br /><br />There should always been new prayers written (yes, written), new songs and hymns composed, new sermons preached-- and all of these should be interjected and introduced into the classic liturgies, as a means of keeping worship "relevant". <br /><br />I'd like to see you pen more thoughts about where this is taking you.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01204385954996143021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22649348.post-29202193596000912052010-05-24T08:53:01.535-05:002010-05-24T08:53:01.535-05:00Ain't nothin' more mundane than leaven wor...Ain't nothin' more mundane than leaven working through a lump.Johnny!https://www.blogger.com/profile/10314962226900234185noreply@blogger.com